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Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« on: January 05, 2007, 08:27:42 AM »
I took this from a car magazine a couple of months ago ....





It certainly gave a new insight to tweeter positioning ... but i believe some of the cons can be rectified with the presence of Time Alignment, Tweeter Gain and also abit of EQ ... what do u think?

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2007, 09:35:02 AM »
Wah tweeter put on door panel, when raining and have to leave the car, the tweeter will take a shower...kekeke

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 09:50:12 AM »
Wah tweeter put on door panel, when raining and have to leave the car, the tweeter will take a shower...kekeke

those are for smaller and economic tweeters i guess ... not for your canggih and expensive tweeter ...

personally, i use more of 4, 5 and 6 ... all angle around the A pillar ....  /121

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 10:09:07 AM »
My personal experience on kick panel installs would be that the tweeter itself does make the difference in whether will the staging sound low. Some tweeters will sound low and u can actually hear where it's coming from. Maybe due to the different off-axis response from different tweeters i suppose.
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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 10:37:19 AM »
I've tried all those positions with the exception of the one on the door panel. Be it el'cheapo or super canggih tweeter, still too 'sayang' lar.

There's one more combo that I've tried. Having the tweeter in kick panels, placed on-axis and higher up on the A-pillar, placed off-axis angled slightly towards the windshield. Yes.... 2 pairs of tweeters. No.. I wasn't using any enhancement kits, just 2 pairs of tweeters crossed at diffrent XO points.

Pros: You get the stage height of the A-pillar installation and stage depth of the kick panel installation. Very nice and broad stage too. Never lacked in details, neither was it overly bright.

Cons: Takes up one additional channel of amplification. Also may sound too bright if gains are not properly adjusted. Not to mention days and nights of endless angling just to reduce the nightmarish reflections!

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 10:40:42 AM »
iceless got picture to illustrate boh?

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2007, 10:51:25 AM »
Unfortunately not. I've since taken out the tweets from the kick panels. Reason for doing so is the image was badly affected when someone sits on the passenger seat, blocking the path of the tweeters.

Just imagine this, it's a combo of pictures of the kick panel instalation and the A-pillar installation.

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2007, 01:03:31 PM »
I saw Sushi Vega's tweets on the sidepanel/step near the doors. Sounds nice leh but I'm not too sure about the rain and dust.  /78

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2007, 10:54:22 PM »
need help with placement of supremo on wira a-pillar. planning to go for option #6 and if cannot maybe option #5. need sifu's help here
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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2007, 05:26:39 AM »
I remember listening to louis talk about kick panel tweeters and dash board tweeters together at the same time.

Anyone done that successfully before?

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2007, 02:03:25 PM »
I remember listening to louis talk about kick panel tweeters and dash board tweeters together at the same time.

Anyone done that successfully before?

I did kick panel + a-pillar combo before. Very nice. Pros and Cons listed in my reply above.  /92 /92
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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2007, 03:06:06 AM »
How did you set the xover points for the two sets of tweeters? Kicks running on passive?

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2007, 01:57:07 PM »
How did you set the xover points for the two sets of tweeters? Kicks running on passive?

The tweets on kicks are SEAS Lotus Reference RT25A and I used it with the passive that came along with it. HP at 1.7Khz. The tweets on A-pillars are Dali tweeters and also paired with Dali passives high passing at 4.5 Khz.
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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2007, 02:05:49 PM »
netken, great resource! thanks.

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2007, 09:08:48 AM »
netken, great resource! thanks.

thanks, hope it helps your setup ....  /168

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Re: Pros & Cons - 6 types of tweeter placements ..
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2007, 09:50:42 AM »
For tweets that are mounted high on the A-pillar, would it still sound like a point source or the midbass and tweet will sound too separated? I'm thinking of DIYing some A-pillars for fun.