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Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« on: December 22, 2006, 10:10:34 AM »
Hello,

Has anyone compared the Focal 165 K2P Improved against the Utopia-BE No.6. May I know the improvements the Utopia-BE No.6 has over the K2P to justify the huge hike in pricing?

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2006, 08:51:24 AM »
No contest here! If it's ultimate Focal you want, get the BE.

It a world of diference!

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2006, 09:52:38 AM »
night and day.

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2006, 10:38:17 AM »
World of diff and night and day meaning? Is the Utopia-BE suitable for all types of music including rock and alternative. I'm apprehensive to get higher end speakers as they frequently struggle or too sterile unless you're playing acoustics and audiophile slow mo recordings.

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2006, 08:33:43 AM »
Unfortunately, I did not get to hear the Focal BE with rock music. But with the classical music at demo, the soundstaging and the dynamics was incredible. I have no reservation if it could rock, with the kind of dynamics and transient heard it definitely rocks!

The main problem I could see with anyone thinking about the BEs is this, are you other equipments on the front good enough for it? i.e.  amps and HU

The BEs are not very forgiving to poor front end equipment and will take no prisoners. It will show all your equipment strenghts and weaknesses easily.

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2006, 02:28:53 PM »
I do not think the ability to play big classical music is an indication that the BEs can play all types of music well. Guess I'll have to make a trip to KL to audition. Which shop stocks these speakers?

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2006, 04:07:37 PM »
the accuracy and extension of the BE tweet is rather amazing ...

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2006, 08:28:58 PM »
the accuracy and extension of the BE tweet is rather amazing ...

Thanks for the input Bro. Any shops where I can audition?

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2006, 11:24:49 PM »
Thanks for the input Bro. Any shops where I can audition?

the only shop i know is in sgp ... as for the tweets that i audition, it was a personal unit before i sold it .. :D

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2006, 08:20:35 AM »
the only shop i know is in sgp ... as for the tweets that i audition, it was a personal unit before i sold it .. :D

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2006, 05:25:13 PM »
Can go to CV Audio at Kuchai Lama...They have a set there ma. Ask Uncle Foo to bring you there.... /77 /66 /64
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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2006, 09:09:24 PM »
listed price with crossblock ... 16k over i think ... but its just listed ...

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2006, 09:57:40 PM »
Can go to CV Audio at Kuchai Lama...They have a set there ma. Ask Uncle Foo to bring you there.... /77 /66 /64

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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2006, 08:25:36 AM »
Saw,

Of coz, can be arrange. Oh ya, the listed price is, listed.  /77
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Re: Focal K2P Improved vs Utopia-BE No.6
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2006, 10:58:41 AM »
i vote k2p if youre after good bass, for rock & r&b songs...or even the older utopia is also good in bass & vocals, the new one seems kinda lightweight ...but must remember good installation more important to bring the bass out of the mids...