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Suitable Platform
« on: March 24, 2011, 03:15:21 PM »
Dudes....

Have any sifus here determine the most suitable Sedan Car (Mid to Full Size) for ICE Project. Any suggestion and state the reason why pls load em up...
Thank You Much in Advance..
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2011, 04:29:04 PM »
honda civic. nissan teana. toyota camry. nice insulated car. or bmw  /72
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2011, 04:47:16 PM »
i would say any of the current honda model... city civic stream and odssey ... wide and deep which makes a good platform
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2011, 04:52:21 PM »
honda civic fd - extreme bad noise insulation. Rear deck noisy
Camry(current model) - too big and wide. bigger the car the more difficult to get the right sound
Bmw e90/e46 - extreme shallow mount drivers needed. There's no high end drivers for slim mount
Bmw e60- shallow drivers only. Rear deck is completely close off from the cabin. Diff for sub to travel to the front.
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 04:57:29 PM »
Insulation, we can always add additional insulation / dampening material; thus the parameter/criteria more towards geometric for the internal space of the car. I know if we talking about this factor, Toyota Alpard is one of the best; but for the purpose we limit to mid to full size sedan, small SUV or MPV.

Anybody else ? How about for installer point of view, ease of installation ? Reduce signal path ?
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 05:40:06 PM »
Im not that good in SQ. but how about VW beetle? i saw theres many SQ competitor using this car..
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 05:41:09 PM »
bmw x5.
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2011, 06:21:52 PM »
Toyota Hilux Vigo Pick-Up Truck...hahaha.... /152
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 06:34:16 PM »

I agree with bafukie.
Honda city soundstage is better than that of Honda civic. Perhaps it has a better platform.
So new set system can be tuned more easily in Honda city.
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 09:06:20 PM »
can i also add mclaren f1 (old version)? single seat in the middle /158
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2011, 09:10:48 PM »
vw passat b5 or golf mk4 ...
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2011, 10:02:45 PM »
Quote from: carcrazy on March 24, 2011, 04:52:21 PM
honda civic fd - extreme bad noise insulation. Rear deck noisy
Camry(current model) - too big and wide. bigger the car the more difficult to get the right sound
Bmw e90/e46 - extreme shallow mount drivers needed. There's no high end drivers for slim mount
Bmw e60- shallow drivers only. Rear deck is completely close off from the cabin. Diff for sub to travel to the front.
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my old cefiro better then above........... can't hear then engine noise
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2011, 10:24:16 PM »
Nissan Sylphy  /66
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2011, 10:25:31 PM »
toyota vios... first generation before facelift...

pros...
1. easy installations... depth, space and position works well with me...
2. meter board at the center, 3 way system can be installed more easily as there is more space on the dash...

cons...
1. well not really rigid... sounddamping/soundproofing/etc etc works will be needed...
2. kinda a personal view... i like my HU below... like wira's position than higher like the vios/city position... reason is... i scared thief cases(got into once, never want it again)... down there i could cover them up with something, which i do everytime...

my 2dollar worth...  /77
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2011, 01:23:15 AM »
ewtan,
true!! ur cefiro upgraded noise insulation(after many stages) is even better than Merc E and C class including the merc current models.
engine noise was hardly noticeable
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2011, 10:04:45 AM »
New Vios? Meter`s at the centre.... A Pillars are quite wide ,which doesn`t have any obstruction on its way though... Quite large boot... Even can put a relatively sub box at the rear passanger seat floor which is flat all the way. (if you`re not planning to fetch more than 1 ppl with your car)  /62

Only 2 thing doesn`t good about this car... Only....

First, which is the sound insulation...  The engine, when it revs up to 3200. Noise came in. The road noise (on highway tarmac/concrete) (which can be extra insulated)  Wind`s drag noise is acceptable when on 110km/h.

Secondly, rear suspension is a bong.... (Need to change) Which is an big factor to us which will probably fit an big sub woofer box and dazzling gadgets of our precious amp, eq or maybe 2nd battery at the boot... 

When you load up 2 adults at the back passanger seat... Nightmare comes... If you`re driving on the road seeing a new Vios fetching 3 adults or whatever which fits all the space at the back passanger seat... DON`T LAUGH your ass off!  /66

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« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2011, 11:27:01 AM »
no worry, used to drive vios. I know how and what it feels.
BTW cefiro seems to be a good choice; as cefiro used to be known to be low NVH (Noise, Vibration & Harshness); The engine seems very stable. There was a marketing cliche during the 90's that engineer used to mount half filled wine glass stick it to the engine of cefiro and drove the cefiro up to 90 km/h an found out that the glass still consist water. I do not know wether this is true or not since this is a cliche I heard way back ago. Probably some of you ever heard about it. By the way, since now cefiro marque being replace by Teana, I do not know whether those nissan designers & engineers still carry this low NVH feats into the new teana. I read the review that this Teana is very calm, gentle & comfortable, very statement like. Teana might be a better full size sedan platform for ICE.
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2011, 11:34:34 AM »
Opps btw this project car is not for showcar purposes, it will be a weekly/long distance travelling car and mostly the occupant will consist of wife, 6 years old daughter and myself... ha..ha
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2011, 04:19:05 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2011, 10:16:31 PM »
Seems that used passat hard to get here. Look up in motortrader none available. Where do you get the car though ?
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2011, 11:33:01 PM »
Available!!!
VW Passat 1.8T B5.5 Tiptronic
* the owner stays near SS17, PJ.
http://www.mudah.my/Volkswagen+passat+1+8+auto-8756209.htm

a week ago, there was another Passat B5 for sale. but our taikor netken sapu oredy.
 
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2011, 01:04:12 AM »
Quote from: carcrazy on March 27, 2011, 11:33:01 PM
Available!!!
VW Passat 1.8T B5.5 Tiptronic
* the owner stays near SS17, PJ.
http://www.mudah.my/Volkswagen+passat+1+8+auto-8756209.htm

a week ago, there was another Passat B5 for sale. but our taikor netken sapu oredy.
 

don't recommend ppl banjir car la. :P
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Re: Suitable Platform
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2011, 02:01:17 PM »
1st gen teana looks good, got a pillar tweeter somore, hehehe
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2011, 03:50:50 PM »
where got first gen teana sell in m'sia ?
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2011, 01:52:09 PM »
the teana just before the current model la... in msia dah 2 batch
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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2011, 03:03:39 PM »
Quote from: Audiophiliac on April 11, 2011, 03:50:50 PM
where got first gen teana sell in m'sia ?

yalor got meh? dun remember Msia have the recent 2nd gen ....  /90
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