Topic: CCA vs OFC Power Cable

[carcrazy]

juz go to philharmonic KLCC.. u will have a new direction. the way you listen to music will change..
get a ticket for Jazz concert..
onli RM70+/- for world class auditorium. its a shame not to be there!!..

after a couple of session there, slowly we will evolve to have a better understanding between audiophile listening and music lover!!
it takes time..

[izso]

juz go to philharmonic KLCC.. u will have a new direction. the way you listen to music will change..
get a ticket for Jazz concert..
onli RM70+/- for world class auditorium. its a shame not to be there!!..

after a couple of session there, slowly we will evolve to have a better understanding between audiophile listening and music lover!!
it takes time..

Vic, i agree and disagree on this. Music and how we appreciate it is very subjective. Your cup of tea isn't necessarily mine and vice versa.

I've been to the philharmonic orchestra and I know what it sounds like. I like it and no doubt it's fantastic but I wouldn't want it in my car, purely because I don't listen to that kind of music in my car and it would sound just weird in a hall (dance music). Anyway, cheers mate.

[mnkh27]

Vic, I have to agree with izso. Sometimes a small setting like in no black tie or even in a proper studio is mighty nice to be at.

But essentially I think what you're trying to say is, try to simulate live! and indulge yourself as if you are there. Either amplified or unamplified, once we have the experiences, what we desire is to feel the vibe and be part of the music.

[kyo111]

I love orchestra and jazz, especially when I can't sleep.

That's the problem when someone want to justify subjective taste as an objective standard and force others to follow.
No doubt that an orchestra concert do able to present 20-20kHz compare to other music but not much people like them.
More important on a sound system, is that can we get a relatively flat response from 20-20kHz? Don't forget that our ears are not sensitive enough >10kHz. But still there's dumb that self claim they can hear >20kHz.

[netken]

Toyota Classics coming again this end year - anyone wanna go can let me know .... = )

[hksp]

welding cable

[octave]

hi audio maniacs ... 

this is actually an interesting and an enriching thread .
unfortunately , it died as a still-born as there were no further
postings . probably there is an apprehension of an impending
cyber jihad .

that being the case , it is imperative to define the meaning of
reference and preference as the chaos is often attributed by
the  inter-changeability of the two definitions .

reference and preference are distinctively two  different entities .

in reference , it relates to how close it resembles the actual live
performance . 

music has an origin , which in this case , are the live performances .
therefore , live performance is the reference . however , there are
two types of live performances i.e amplified and unamplified .

it is one's preference to choose either amplified or unamplified
live performances as one's reference .

it is also one's preference to choose whatever genre of music in
the live performance .

well , it goes without saying that unamplified live performance is
more precise as it excludes any interfering factors that may
severely alter the original sound .

hahaha ... that's what the sound engineer  is paid to do .... 
to fool us ... the consumers/music lovers 

obviously , when there is a confluence of two divergent thoughts
it meanders into a progressive society where the audio nirvana ..

is just a step away ......     

[andoropoi]

Hehehe....this is going to be interesting.....

[kyo111]

Yeah, indeed, this is like a chicken talking to a duck.

[izso]

Doc Ock : I agree.

but I have a slight disagreement on the preference. It's true it's a preference when we choose unamplified over amplified, but there's also the factor of how we want the performance to sound like. Whether it has precise staging, dolby surround or live performance (which you're fond of). To me my preference is amplified sound with the stage being right in front of me with the singer in the middle, the highhats in the back, guitar on my right and etc.

However unrealistic that may be in the 'real world', it's still my preference.

[octave]

hi iszo ... 

may i extend my congratulation to you for having fully understood the
difference between the two terms . however , that is merely the first
part to the equation ... the choosing of the type of live performance
and the genre of music involved . in other words , that is only the settings
for reference .

the next question is : how to achieve the purity of sound of live performances ?

you may ask : can , therefore , preference plays a role here ?

the answer is sadly ... a nope . if it does , it cannot be  not pure as the
parameters of the actual sound has been shifted to satisfy one personal desire .
but i do declare that i respect one's preference . it is fun though . and i dare
say that the attainment of preference will only lead to the pursuit of reference ...
an evolutionary process i presume .

how true would ultimately depend upon one's position in the classification
of audio enthusiasts . these are namely :

1.   Basic level
2.   Intermediate level
3.   Advanced level

as you may be aware , each level has a different objective . unless the audio
enthusiasts are in the same classification , it is like a conversation between
a chicken and a ducklings , as kyo111 so aptly puts it .

hopefully ... i am not a chick   

hahaha ... and you a duck   

or is it vice versa ....        

[kyo111]

This Octave remains me of werewolf..... A lot of beautiful words but leads to nothing. This thread is opened for comparing cables and you suddenly pop up and say something on live performance? Wouldn't you feel funny on this? If you don't want to admit you are a chicken, maybe tune to the right radio frequency is best describes this if don't want to use animals to do comparisons? Just like our stupid reviewer from UK, Jeremy Clarkson, the cars he likes he uses his hand to touch it then says that he knocked and it is though while the car he don't like he will use a crane lift it then trash it and say the car is not though.
Reference are objective while preference are subjective. But on hobbies, how many people will seperate these 2 properly without mxing them together when doing a review?
Stick to the topic, Octave. I know you are good on using beautiful words, but that does not means you are always right.

[cuai]

hmmm..i wonder if they have stopped using cables for any live performances nowadays? 

[octave]

kyo111 ... 

yes , you are right that i should stick to the topic . thank you .
but to exercise a tinge of fairness and honesty , you should have
voiced it much earlier  . hahaha ...  it is better now than never
at all .

a forum is an oasis of multiple of conflicting thoughts . in order to
ensure it as a thriving community , a blogger therefore has  a moral ,
not legal , obligation to promote , encourage and disseminate the
exchange of thoughts . even if it is in direct contradiction with one's
personal reasonings .

such expressions , however , should be  guided as being :

1.   fair and honest
     
      a blogger should uphold fairness and honesty in gathering ,
      reporting and interpreting the informations

2.   be sensitize/ minimise damage

      a blogger should treat fellow bloggers as human beings
      deserving respect .

3.    accountability

       abide by the same stringent standard as one expect others
       to cherish

interestingly , an individual should not commit an act or omission
that may impede this osmosis of free expressions . otherwise ,
the oasis where we quench our thirst for knowledge will die a
natural death .

and there will be NO exchange of thoughts ... 

thank you again ... for providing me the inspiration  ... 

[kyo111]

^Well, I already voiced out earlier, just that you don't understand or you refused to understand. Even the thread title already said "CCA vs OFC Power Cable", do you see any live performance story on the thread title? I don't.

Indeed we must respect to each other, but when a person(you for example) simply drift or going off topic for no reason, are you respecting the thread starter?