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Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« on: May 21, 2010, 02:01:34 AM »
Dear all, as you know recently i have received two focals from local accs shop at low price, owner doesn't know it's real or fake but the person who sold him this insisted these are real. It were put in my selling thread for few days, in order to compensate my carelessness, i bought 2 set original focal k2p uv, certified by singapore dealer for comparison, and below are my findings:

1. The surface of composite sandwich cone, fake one are little bit rough, and the real one seems got a layer of transparent thingy covering it, feel smoother, please view the pic for differences. Fake one has relatively bright yellow color cone but real one are dim yellow color, due to quality of pics, you might not be able to see clearly.

REAL


FAKE



2.  The inner circle design of tweeter, Real one patterns is "vvvvvvvvvvvvv" whereas fake one is weird shape. Also, fake one tioxid's area are shallow compare to Real and light grey in colour, however real one are darker.

REAL


FAKE




3. There are more clues in crossover:

a) Adjustable tweeter level, Real one are firm and close to each button (-1db,-2db,-4db) upper part are same size as bottom part, but fake one has big gap between buttons, and the bottom part are bigger than button obviously, last but not least, they are shaky!

b) Adjustable midrange level, Real one's switch are firm, it snapped accurately either left-mid high or right-mid flat, whereas fake has freeplay, it can stopped in between.

c) I have seen 4 set of k2p uv so far, all of them using black colour cable to hold coil, there will be only one big glue behind adjustable tweeter level buttoms. Fake one sometimes use white colour cable, and the coil was messy glued. Real one has brighter bronze color, and the fake looks like oxidized, darker... 

d) The wording on bottom left, Real one "FOCAL" each alphabet are close to each other, but fake one got bigger gap
There are more tiny tiny spot, but i guess this should be enough to differentiate which one is fake...

REAL - LEFT


REAL - RIGHT


FAKE


Hopefully this can help you guys... cheers /53 /53 /53
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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2010, 11:25:30 PM »
well done bro.................
next year i recommend you for bonus.
appreciate your time and effort.

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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2010, 10:37:51 AM »
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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2010, 07:39:20 PM »
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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2010, 10:32:21 PM »
good find zac. glad someone stepped up to differentiate it.

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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010, 12:51:09 AM »
kudos bro!! you purposely bought 2 sets of ORI just to differentiate it with the fakes???  /92

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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2010, 01:43:42 AM »
cos i scared i might make mistake mah... one set bought by my fren liao... now left one more set + tweeter pod for sell...  /62 no money... /35
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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 10:36:17 PM »
something new brather

Yeah yeah Calvin, Kit apparently has some new gears on his ride..... /163
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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2010, 03:15:23 PM »
Yeah yeah Calvin, Kit apparently has some new gears on his ride..... /163
pengsan again

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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2010, 11:08:29 PM »
brother zac, is there any different with the so called local set and water set? quality same?

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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 12:24:17 AM »
Seriously... i dunno...  /62
Normally local set meant imported by legit distributor with warranty... water set is bring in by personal, export set from overseas distributor... by right the built should be the same, sometime warranty provided for water set too... most importantly, must purchase from someone/company that got better goodwill, honest and responsible... just my 2 cent...  O0
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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2010, 01:23:51 PM »
by definition, underwater set means its real but didnt pay tax only

the one zac bought above is fake one, means totally copied product

well done zac, should put on other forums as well

can u re-take the writing on the passives "FOCAL 165K2P" bottom right corner

to make it easier to compare the fonts...

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Re: Some guidelines to identify FAKE Focal K2P UV!!!
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2010, 02:34:20 PM »
thanks zac and this would come up as a sticky ...