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Offline montero

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my setting
« on: March 28, 2010, 10:35:18 AM »
plis sifu commen my setting n tuning ( sub = macrom, component=rs pro, amp= DLS ra 50 5 chanel)

sub =50hz, 30 db, mid hpf =  50hz, 6db, mid lpf=5khz, 6db. tweeter= 3.15hz, 6 db
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Re: my setting
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2010, 11:39:29 AM »
R u playing active or passive?  I assume active kuk.

What problem with your current setting?

Seems like overlapping between high & mid.

Suggest sub LP = 80Hz, mid HP = 80Hz & LP = 4kHz, high HP = 4kHz.  From there, adjust a bit bit to suit your taste.

Tuning is one thing, but the position of Tweeter also important to get the imaging and soundstage.
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Re: my setting
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2010, 12:54:03 PM »
im also using p80rs2. tune by rudi & alkaf too. how is your setup.
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Re: my setting
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2010, 01:08:11 PM »
mine the p80rs2 is on normal mode not network. my setup:

sub lpf=63hz
tweeter & midrange hpf = 200hz ( on amp fullrange because using passive crossover hpf 300 ++ - midrange & hpf 6k - tweeter)
midbass hpf = 63 hz (on amp lpf 250)
have you listen to the alpine f1 setup by rudi and alkaf kancil.
its crazy man.  /24
dont now la how i can get up to that level of sq with my current setup
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Re: my setting
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 02:09:30 PM »
i'm using active setup now...
hafizulhadi...u using alpine f1? why still using passive xover? not enough amp?
how much cost to make passive xover?
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Re: my setting
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 09:35:00 AM »
mr montero...

i would advise you to use 12db slope for all drivers and see if it sounds better...

from your setting... i imagine that the sub pounce and punch and doesnt rumble along with the mids... hence not homogene like what you call it... and the staging is high one moment, low the next moment... try 3.15kHz @ 12db for both tweet and mid... i am thinking have to retune your gain at these settings, and phases as well...

just my 2 cents...

hope that helps...
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Re: my setting
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2010, 11:12:13 AM »
so less steep slope is preferred?
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Re: my setting
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2010, 12:29:52 PM »
no im not using alpine f1. rudi own an alpine f1 just listen to his setup during dls competition last disember at berjaya times square, kl. mine only the p80rs2 the mid and tweeter using passive setup customised by rudi. it a great setup and enjoy listening to it.
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Re: my setting
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2010, 09:46:43 PM »
you were adressing me kevyeoh?

well.. yea... i like less steep slope... maybe its my driver/placing/angling/installations... but i remember when i tuned a setup with rs pro last time, i was uusing the same slope as well... sounds better vs steep slope to me.
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Re: my setting
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2010, 10:50:43 PM »
craziechild bro...yes... sorry..should have put ur nick first before asking question...
thanks anyway...i tried 12 vs 18 ...can't really detect the difference...haha....
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Re: my setting
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 11:34:27 PM »
Quote from: kevyeoh on March 30, 2010, 10:50:43 PM
craziechild bro...yes... sorry..should have put ur nick first before asking question...
thanks anyway...i tried 12 vs 18 ...can't really detect the difference...haha....


may be u should disconnect all the other drivers....while changing the slope....the different is there....
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Re: my setting
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2010, 09:56:51 AM »
kev...

what i always detect is...

on 12db slope... it gives me fuller sound...
on 18db slope... it sounds thinner...

hehe... mayb direct try 24db... hehe...
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Re: my setting
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2010, 09:48:47 PM »
craziechild...can u suggest full setting for me start from sub, midbass and tweter.
maybe i want to stay with my 2 way
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Re: my setting
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2010, 10:18:19 PM »

It sound like u need someone who is pro in tuning. /68
Someone who has those magic touch.  /196
get someone who can tune to your kind of taste.
i like mine sweet.lucky me. /196.its cheaper than natural sound



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Re: my setting
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2010, 12:35:41 AM »
this is wht i did with my RS PRO 2-3years back using active (Tru tech F1b)

Tweeter - 3k-4k region
Mid - 4k and around 80hz-100hz
Sub - 100hz coz using a 10"

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Re: my setting
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2010, 01:02:49 PM »
TW = HP: 3.5kHz @ 12db @ level 0db
MID = HP: 80Hz @ 12db ; LP: 3kHz @ 12db @ level 0db
LOW = LP 63Hz @ 12db @ level 0db
phase 0 for all drivers...

this is always my initial setting...
from here do the followings:
1. gain settings, set your gain so that there is no driver that over-powering the other driver... either at the amp, or the level in the xover, whichever sounds best to you...
ie. TW is louder than the MID, the you decrease the TW gain, increase the MID gain.
2. tweeter angling/placing... find the spot to mount where the staging is at your prefered level... i prefer eye level...
3. staging in on one side of the stage, try reversed polarity on one of the driver... sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt...

i think thats all for now... need to know the result from all these then i could continue... hehehe... too many posibilities after this one... haha...
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Re: my setting
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2010, 01:36:19 PM »
Sifu, if i using passive xover from the comp set. What is the recommended general xover setting suppose for my HU.
My current setting:
Hi - Pass
LP - 200hz @ 12db 
HP - 80hz @ 12db
Sub LP - 100hz @ 12db (10" sub)

If u figure out anything wrong with my current setting please enlighten me. TQ!
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Re: my setting
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2010, 12:00:57 AM »
wait ya craziechild...
i'll give the result..
maybe now i just want to stay with 2 way coz dun want to pening2 lagi about apparatus.
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Re: my setting
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2010, 12:33:27 AM »
i suggest u start at:

sub lp 63, slope 12db, or can go 80, or can go 50 at 18 or 24 also, try-2 la
mid hp 63 slope 12, can try 50 at 18 or 24
mid lp 2k or 2.5k at 12, or 18, or even 6, try-2 la....
tweeter hp 2k at 12db, ive even tried rs pro tweet at 1.5k no problem, full range also can, hahaha....but play around la, maybe 2.5k at 18db

keep playing around, thats part of the fun, u will educate yourself about tuning...
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