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what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« on: November 01, 2006, 03:36:54 PM »
what is the functinallity of the "pre amp bypass?"
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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2006, 04:14:26 PM »
Are U refering to HU pre-amp bypass?

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2006, 04:19:33 PM »
oh soli, its amplifier pre amp bypass
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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2006, 05:03:07 PM »
Did your amp have Hi-low terminal ? what brand is that?

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2006, 05:50:17 PM »
i think this is to make the signal pass through electronic circuits, hence, more pure signal you get until amplifier circuit. However, you will get weaker signal due to the signal is w/o pre-amp (boosted).
as I know, all current amplifiers comes with "internal pre-amp" before signal going into the amplifier circuit

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2006, 06:37:28 PM »
oh actually i was asking about the tru billet six.... i dont understand the pre amp bypass thingy.....
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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2006, 08:38:55 PM »
oh actually i was asking about the tru billet six.... i dont understand the pre amp bypass thingy.....

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2006, 09:56:49 AM »
Basically, the amp has 3 sections. Pre-amp (input section), Output section and the Power Supply. Only the Billet allows you to turn-off/bypass the pre-amp section meaning that the signal goes directly to the output section for the purest amplification.

A car audio amplifier is like an integrated amp in home audio, where there's a pre and power section built in one chassis except the home ones have input selectors to allow multiple sources.  Some high-end home audiophiles/purist will upgrade to a dedicated/separate pre and power amplifier or even a CD transport and DAC (just like alpine's new F1).

The Billet amp allows you to make your amplifier a pure amplifier without any ajinamoto added. All pre-amp, crossovers, bass-boost etc. is bypassed. However, this makes your amplifier gain a unity gain (see below in red). The input sensitivity of the Billet with pre-amp on is 400mV-9.5V (most amps only require a minimum of 200mV, in expense of sound quality). With the pre-amp off, the input sensitivity requires between 1V-13.5V. Thus, it is recommended to have at least 5v pre-out from your source/head unit. You can even max out the gain knobs with zero distortion and noise floor.

In electronics, gain is usually taken as the mean ratio of the signal output of a system to the signal input of the system. A gain of five would imply that either the voltage or power is increased by a factor of five. It has wide application in amplifiers.

A gain of factor 1 or (equivalent to 0 dB) where both input and output are at the same voltage level is also known as unity gain.


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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2006, 10:15:21 AM »
mmm, never show me b4... :p  /87 /86 /87

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2006, 10:19:13 AM »
wow.... thanks for the pro explanation..... let me arrange and call u to drop by for better understanding.....
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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2006, 10:20:00 AM »
whose no1 billet six?
hehehe actually i taught to simplify my system.....
1 amp gao dim
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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2006, 11:32:01 AM »
whose no1 billet six?
hehehe actually i taught to simplify my system.....
1 amp gao dim

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2006, 11:33:26 AM »
wah... can share ar bert...
how u gonna run the system?
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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2006, 12:12:45 PM »
Dunno yet.. still planning it out. Part ofit is confirmed, part nto confirmed

Should be a simple system only...

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2006, 12:58:56 PM »
midbass scans Rev / PHD AF?? meaning either 1 la....?
hmmm i plan to run like u... but not having any subs
bro bert must ask mike to help help a bit to whack down the price of billet six le
hehehehehe.......
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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2006, 06:17:07 PM »
Retail price of the Billet Six will be 12 grand, close to 13. It's 100w x 4 and 150w x 2. Two amps in one chassis but 4 power supplies/transformer. Gains will not be independent. It's 1 gain knob - 2ch.

We do not have a unit to show yet because it will be launched only at the CES 2007, Las Vegas in January. However, we are taking orders now because production is limited.

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2006, 07:02:54 PM »
Well, can't decide on which midbass to use.. was initially eying the PHD AF then kena kacau to go for the Rev... will decide later.

Yalar.. bugger... raise the power output on me... last time was supposed to be a 4x75 and 2x110w then now upgrade to higher power... I wanted to be below 600w also cannot :(

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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2006, 09:41:46 AM »
wuahahaha bro bert sure the higher power the better ma..... where can low low de...... hehehehe......  /90
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Re: what is PRE AMP BYPASS??
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2006, 12:51:25 AM »
Nope, higher power is not necessarily better. What you want is sufficient power but plenty of headroom (which I feel can't really be determined by the power ratings).