Author Topic: WTA helix amp  (Read 1643 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline ahbell

  • Just Join!
  • *
  • Posts: 44
  • Audit Me! +1/-0
WTA helix amp
« on: May 03, 2009, 10:31:11 PM »
just wanna know which amp is better helix A6 or P400????

Offline Zenn

  • Thread Mods
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 583
  • Audit Me! +22/-8
  • Gender: Male
    • Rosen's Homepage
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 01:40:41 PM »
i think A series is their highest range, so should be better than the P or B or precision series

Offline craziechild

  • Newbie
  • Fanatic ICER
  • True ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 423
  • Audit Me! +9/-7
  • Gender: Male
  • Newbie
    • brian-r-tan photostream
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2009, 07:23:27 PM »
A6...

Offline ahbell

  • Just Join!
  • *
  • Posts: 44
  • Audit Me! +1/-0
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2009, 09:31:09 PM »
but i heard tat P400 has higher RMS...and A6 has onli 75

Offline Zenn

  • Thread Mods
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 583
  • Audit Me! +22/-8
  • Gender: Male
    • Rosen's Homepage
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2009, 05:10:22 PM »
yeah, thats why helix users become brax users, lol........

Offline ahbell

  • Just Join!
  • *
  • Posts: 44
  • Audit Me! +1/-0
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2009, 08:44:53 PM »
lol wat u mean??? tat means ppl dont use helix?

Offline Zenn

  • Thread Mods
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 583
  • Audit Me! +22/-8
  • Gender: Male
    • Rosen's Homepage
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2009, 01:04:06 PM »
power isnt everything..........

Offline ahbell

  • Just Join!
  • *
  • Posts: 44
  • Audit Me! +1/-0
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2009, 09:49:44 PM »
brax is too expensive @@

Offline carcrazy

  • Audio Creations
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 600
  • Audit Me! +41/-12
  • Gender: Male
  • Analog Music
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2009, 09:53:54 PM »
There's much much more to it than just an expensive amp to setup a proper SQ car.

AudioMagic.Bybee Quantum Purifier.Renovatio.Duelund.Mundorf.Mcintosh.Luxman.HSS Fidelity.Focal.Zapco.JLAudio.Vifa.Scanspeak.Van den Hul.Alpine.Pioneer.Sony.Macrom.PHD.Cryo Fuse.Fuelbankevo II
Mods/Upgrades Service Available!!
www.audio-creations.com

Offline bafukie

  • Senior ICER
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 524
  • Audit Me! +10/-14
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2009, 11:36:44 PM »
agree... but getting good quality amps is a step closer to decent car sq... and good quality usually = $$$$$

Offline ahbell

  • Just Join!
  • *
  • Posts: 44
  • Audit Me! +1/-0
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2009, 11:40:47 PM »
hhmmm how is audioson amps and steg or sinosie??? errmm not reli sure about the spelling but their high end amps. so for now i'll think tat helix is out of the picture cuz its not so musical as lots of ppls feedback.

Offline bafukie

  • Senior ICER
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 524
  • Audit Me! +10/-14
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 11:42:21 PM »
belum audit belum tau bro... u never know u might just fall head over heels  /144 /146 /134

Offline netken

  • Newbie Icer!
  • Senior ICER!
  • True ICER
  • *
  • Posts: 379
  • Audit Me! +25/-22
  • Gender: Male
  • We Rise - You Fall.
    • ICE Hifi Fanatic!
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2009, 08:32:42 AM »
i think Helix is a good amp and so is audison .... why don't you listen to some sample setups ...

different ppl will introduce different brands - listen for yourself first .... honestly in th end - i find Brax abit dry and perhaps too clean for my liking ... i love about of characteristics or colouring like TRU, Sinfoni and Genesis ....

to each its own - but start to miss those days already ... :D

Offline ahbell

  • Just Join!
  • *
  • Posts: 44
  • Audit Me! +1/-0
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2009, 04:26:21 PM »
hhmmm i see i see... but i duuno where to audit those amps @@

Offline netken

  • Newbie Icer!
  • Senior ICER!
  • True ICER
  • *
  • Posts: 379
  • Audit Me! +25/-22
  • Gender: Male
  • We Rise - You Fall.
    • ICE Hifi Fanatic!
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2009, 11:14:38 PM »
hhmmm i see i see... but i duuno where to audit those amps @@

mr. mnkh ? what say u ?

Offline built

  • Fanatic ICER
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 541
  • Audit Me! +14/-16
  • Gender: Male
  • balance, i must find balance...
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2009, 06:26:00 AM »
just wanna know which amp is better helix A6 or P400????
i suggest that you pay a visit to audio creations or "walk" around
to visit some of the "better" installers in town to ask/ inquire or
google what amplification is all about and what to look out for
when selecting an amplifier. because you'll always get different
replies when you ask a "better" question; especially when you are
not being specific.

i give you an example... you ask "why" to crazechild's reply - A6
and crazechild then demonstrate that A6 uses higher quality
components, power is measured better than P400 and all other
technical stuff. i then post... yes, A6 is constructed better but
i like the raw sound of the P400 and it is 20% (or whatever %)
cheaper. so, ahbell... is A6 "really" better?

and an audition is no "better" either - too many combinations.
plus what seems "better" is very subjective (described by netken
below).

i love about of characteristics or colouring like TRU, Sinfoni and Genesis .... to each its own - ....



built-2-last
Enjoy the music!
music is the only sensual pleasure without vice... - octave

Offline mnkh27

  • High-End Distributor
  • Audio Creations
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 988
  • Audit Me! +41/-45
  • Gender: Male
  • Patience is a Virtue.
    • Audio Creations - No Games, Just Music
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2009, 12:25:36 PM »
come come come beramai ramai.. let me know so i can go buy refreshments. /134

Offline carcrazy

  • Audio Creations
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 600
  • Audit Me! +41/-12
  • Gender: Male
  • Analog Music
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2009, 01:27:48 PM »
3 days ago I did some minor upgrade/install/tuning for a Evo 9.
The car had the following item already install by reputable installer (not me):
1] DLS A4 amp
2] DLS Iridium 2-way
3] DLS 10" sub
4] Kenwood DVD 6039
5] Monster Cable 400 RCA
To my surprise, the amp was at almost full gain for the front comps and max gain(bridged) for sub on the A4.
Problem is that it wasnt loud and it was already clipping signal.
I thought it was a imitation DLS A4 but it had a NTC sticker on it.
Really created a doubt in me for the DLS amp.
Still trying to figure out what was wrong with this simple setup system.






AudioMagic.Bybee Quantum Purifier.Renovatio.Duelund.Mundorf.Mcintosh.Luxman.HSS Fidelity.Focal.Zapco.JLAudio.Vifa.Scanspeak.Van den Hul.Alpine.Pioneer.Sony.Macrom.PHD.Cryo Fuse.Fuelbankevo II
Mods/Upgrades Service Available!!
www.audio-creations.com

Offline mnkh27

  • High-End Distributor
  • Audio Creations
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 988
  • Audit Me! +41/-45
  • Gender: Male
  • Patience is a Virtue.
    • Audio Creations - No Games, Just Music
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2009, 01:36:08 PM »
eh, what has it to do with the topic?

Offline mnkh27

  • High-End Distributor
  • Audio Creations
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 988
  • Audit Me! +41/-45
  • Gender: Male
  • Patience is a Virtue.
    • Audio Creations - No Games, Just Music
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2009, 01:44:26 PM »
carcrazy: anyway easy, just take the amp out and try it elsewhere.

my guess is the kenwood player. rated 2v preout, probably much less.

the A7 needs 0.3v minimum which is pretty high and comparable to the gain structure of brax and tru billet.


Offline roy77

  • Junior Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 95
  • Audit Me! +2/-0
  • Up n Going
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2009, 04:17:30 PM »
most of helix amp is under rated by 20% heard from one trust worthy source.

Offline ahbell

  • Just Join!
  • *
  • Posts: 44
  • Audit Me! +1/-0
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2009, 09:15:52 PM »
hhmm reli??? so if its 75rms tat means in actual its about 100?

Offline calvinhpk

  • Scanspeak-er
  • Fanatic ICER
  • Spam ICER
  • ***
  • Posts: 552
  • Audit Me! +28/-19
  • Gender: Male
Re: WTA helix amp
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2009, 11:59:55 PM »
well...... power is 1 thing, the quality is another issue....
sometimes, the more powerful amp doesn't mean that it sounds better than the less power ones.....

but...there's another school who says power is power, the more the better...

see which one you want to follow :D