Author Topic: advise on which sub i should go for~! thx (Read 2936 times)

crazy.tony · « **on:** January 30, 2008, 06:09:21 PM »

hi all sifus.. i'm fresh with ICE.
i plan to buy a subwoofer wif around budget RM450.
currently, the marketplace gave me 2 choices.

12" peerless w/o enclosure, and the other RF p2 12" + enclosure.
wanna ask, which wan is better..?

http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,1348.0.html
http://www.icehifi.com/index.php/topic,1202.msg12782.html#msg12782

i'm listening to all kind of genre. sometime classical, pop, blues, hip-hop rap and ....
i dowan those ahbeng SPL system which only produce loud bassy boom..

as i noe, RF is more towards SPL.
but i audited my fren's fren with a P80rs + RF P2 12" + RF dono which series amp.
the bass sound good. very soft..
but someone tell me RF's bass is kinda hard. when listening to romance song bass will become slamming hard.

pls advise me.
oh ya, sure sifu ask for my current setup.
honestly, i don have good setup. all my items dono is fake or ori.

HU: quite old liao. sony HU, 1 pre-out.
driver: front -> RF fanatic 6.5" mid + hertz dono wat model tweeter.. comes together since the previous user claimed the RF ori tweeter is very high pitch.
rear : got 6"x9", but not using anymore.
amp: cheap cheap chapalang amp. 4 channel. *saving money to upgrade better amp.

driving wira, i edi done some sound proof wif cheap bitumen strip on both side front doors.

Zenn · « **Reply #1 on:** January 31, 2008, 12:55:25 PM »

get the peerless, wont go wrong...

crazy.tony · « **Reply #2 on:** January 31, 2008, 02:30:34 PM »

anyone else..??
i nid more comment on this both subbie..

craziechild · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2008, 10:29:28 AM »

peerless for me too...

bafukie · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2008, 10:36:24 AM »

Peerless user here...no complains. But P2 is quite a good sub too.

crazy.tony · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2008, 07:20:19 PM »

the peerless grabbed by somebody already.
any comment bout D1 diamond..??

someone is selling on lowyat. its an used unit..
but the sub made in china..
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=113&t=599765

bafukie · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2008, 08:41:45 PM »

With 600 u might as well get the new one from micheal... paging paging....

mnkh27 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2008, 03:18:32 AM »

Chiu, Peerless is also now made in the factory Panyu located in Guangzhou, China.

crazy.tony · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2008, 11:44:49 PM »

sob.. sub was sold.
i want to get a sub with budget 500 with box..
12" woofer.. any idea..??

crazy.tony · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2008, 12:42:22 PM »

sorry coz asking too much on choosing sub..

peerless 10" XLS, same thread in icehifi. link above.
and Alpine SWS-1042D 10", from gr8tunes.

which 1 better..??

Zenn · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2008, 01:33:17 PM »

peerless.....

crazy.tony · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2008, 01:45:13 PM »

alright.. zenn taikor, thx alot for fast response.

crazy.tony · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2008, 12:40:07 PM »

greeting to all...
i had bought the peerless 10".
what is the box volume i should use..??

btw, dono dis sub is good on sealed or ported..
any suggestion..? using in wira..
and how much cost will needed for a good enclosure..?

Zenn · « **Reply #13 on:** February 19, 2008, 01:03:32 PM »

sealed, around 1.0-1.1 cu ft, good box around 200-250

crazy.tony · « **Reply #14 on:** February 19, 2008, 01:10:02 PM »

er.. how to consider the box is a good box..??
i scare when go to those shop they kon me with a cheap box..
got any sifu can recommend..? i'm staying at puchong perdana.

10" also using 1.0-1.1 cu ft..? i saw 12" using around that too..

btw, 200 is out of my budget now.. sob..
wait next month only can get the box..

durkheim · « **Reply #15 on:** February 19, 2008, 02:17:46 PM »

Quote from: crazy.tony on February 19, 2008, 01:10:02 PM

er.. how to consider the box is a good box..??
i scare when go to those shop they kon me with a cheap box..
got any sifu can recommend..? i'm staying at puchong perdana.

10" also using 1.0-1.1 cu ft..? i saw 12" using around that too..

btw, 200 is out of my budget now.. sob..
wait next month only can get the box..

I think you can get a good box from Megasound at RM150

crazy.tony · « **Reply #16 on:** February 19, 2008, 03:03:09 PM »

megasound is a forumer or a shop's name..??

izit at puchong..?

bafukie · « **Reply #17 on:** February 19, 2008, 03:30:39 PM »

megasound is not at puchong. its located somewhere near to the subang airport.

crazy.tony · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2008, 04:06:07 PM »

subang old airport..??
there got shop..? i reli duno wan..

i nid a sealed box with the volume as stated by zenn taikor.
1.0-1.1 cu ft..

so megasound is good and trusted...??

bafukie · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2008, 06:12:51 PM »

should be... some of the forumers had their ICE done up there.

iceicebaby · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2008, 11:53:49 PM »

Quote from: crazy.tony on February 19, 2008, 04:06:07 PM

subang old airport..??
there got shop..? i reli duno wan..

i nid a sealed box with the volume as stated by zenn taikor.
1.0-1.1 cu ft..

so megasound is good and trusted...??

Bro.. my ice knowledge is not very wide.. but i have read quite a bit in the peerless sub.. some model of the peerless 10" only require something between 0.5-0.75cuft. What's the different if put this in this size comparred to 1cuft?

crazy.tony · « **Reply #21 on:** March 14, 2008, 12:12:01 AM »

yalo.. anyone can make an explaination for tat..??

i scare afterward i get the wrong box.

my fren oso telling me that 1.0-1.1 like more to 12" subbie..
pls advise.. thx alot.

iceicebaby · « **Reply #22 on:** March 14, 2008, 05:26:38 PM »

Check out this....

http://www.tymphany.com/xls-car-subwoofers

Calculated should be between 0.5 to 0.7cuft....

crazy.tony · « **Reply #23 on:** March 14, 2008, 07:33:27 PM »

14 liters mean 0.5-0.7 cu ft.??

i reli dono how to calculate wan...

iceicebaby · « **Reply #24 on:** March 15, 2008, 04:37:15 PM »

Quote from: crazy.tony on March 14, 2008, 07:33:27 PM

14 liters mean 0.5-0.7 cu ft.??

i reli dono how to calculate wan...

Bro.. maybe this can help u....

mnkh27 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 15, 2008, 05:24:57 PM »

Quote from: iceicebaby on March 14, 2008, 05:26:38 PM

Check out this....

http://www.tymphany.com/xls-car-subwoofers

Calculated should be between 0.5 to 0.7cuft....

Do you know how the XLS sound with .5-.7 cu/ft enclosure?

crazy.tony · « **Reply #26 on:** March 15, 2008, 05:59:37 PM »

erm~ taikor can tell me bout the diff..??

so wat do u mean..??

the 10" oso can fit into 1.0-1.1 cu ft..??
pls enlighten me dis noobie..
TQ very2 much

krayden · « **Reply #27 on:** March 15, 2008, 08:26:04 PM »

Why don't you just bring the manual to a decent shop and tell them to make according to manufacturer recommended specs for a sealed box? Unless you want a specific box shape, that should be the end of it. And don't get the clip on terminals. Get something that you can screw in your cables. And use good cables on the inside (sub to terminal). Here, more confusion for you:

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/box_wizard.asp

Use 3/4MDF.

iceicebaby · « **Reply #28 on:** March 16, 2008, 11:18:11 PM »

Quote from: mnkh27 on March 15, 2008, 05:24:57 PM

Do you know how the XLS sound with .5-.7 cu/ft enclosure?

Yes sifu, please tell us..

mnkh27 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 23, 2008, 05:43:44 AM »

Not to get into technical specifications because most of us will not understand and to put it in simple plain english, Peerless XLS in a sealed box can't really go very low and output can be insufficient although you see the sub working it's pants off. It's not a problem if you listen mainly to techno songs or like tight bass but don't expect to get much low entension from it to enjoy other music genres.

Some EQing does help but becareful not to bottom the sub beyond it's maximum excursion and limit yourself to 100dB and below (many times we do not hear our subs screeming for help and bottoming out while it is in the trunk space). 28L (1cu/ft) like Zenn recommended should be the minimum you should go and if you can afford a little larger that would certainly help get more output from the lower bass region (below 100hz) with a little less EQing. Another option is for you to get the passive radiators to aid the sub in the low frequencies. 2 units is recommended if you can afford them. You may even want to go ported for much better response but there will no protection on the subwoofer excursion if you play insanely loud.

Perhaps you can identify the actual model of your Peerless XLS sub and also let us know what type of bass you're expecting to achieve with these babies.

crazy.tony · « **Reply #30 on:** March 23, 2008, 01:06:29 PM »

the peerless model is 830514. 10" subwoofer.
EQing = proper tuning...?
how much for the passive radiator..? any example..? this will cost a bomb for me i think.. as a student la..
by the way, i cant explain what bass i want to achieve as my hearing cant differentiate what is a good bass..

juz wish the sub can perform the best of it..
i think my amp wont exceed 100db coz it juz a cheap cheap amp..
and i don play loud.. volume of music is juz to cover the sounds from outside while driving..

so as what bro mike explained, 1.0-1.1 cu ft is juz good enough for this sub. izit..?